[FreeVMS] Re: Module


Subject: [FreeVMS] Re: Module
From: Bruce Allen (claudevms@home.com)
Date: Fri Nov 02 2001 - 01:32:44 CET


What's involved in setting up a CVS tree?
Can it be done on the same server that hosts a website?
My provider allows me upto 500 MB of storage.
I'm a VMS developer guy and I don't know much about the web.
My provider says they will be mad if I cause too much traffic to their site.

I think distributing Compaq header files unmodified would be a bad thing.
Microsoft paid lots of money to DEC for ripping off lots of VMS internals.
This payoff was a quiet behind the scenes thing.

I think implementing ODS-2 would be a great starting point.

Is anyone looking at modifying the Linux kernel so it behaves like the VMS
kernel?
What about chip architectures? Intel supports 4 rings while VAX and Alpha
support
KESU. Other chips support 2 memory modes KU.

ClaudeVMS
http://www.freevms.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "BERTRAND JoŽl" <joel.k.bertrand@free.fr>
To: <freevms@ml.free.fr>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 1:39 AM
Subject: [FreeVMS] Re: Module

> roart@nvg.ntnu.no wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 09:35:39PM -0800, Henry W. Miller wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "BERTRAND JoŽl" <joel.k.bertrand@free.fr>
> >>
> >>>Magne Mśhre wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BERTRAND JoŽl wrote (2001-10-26 14:22:43):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>I can help you if you want. I use a 2.4.13 kernel.
> >>>
> >> Nothing like being on the bleeding edge of technology...
> >>(I've been lurking here for a few days; I glad to see that at
> >>least ONE of the Free VMS projects is still going.)
> >>
> >
> > I am trying (at least) to do something on logicals.
> >
> >
> >>>>I've made a copy of the original module available
> >>>>on ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/vms/freevms/vmsfs.tar.gz
> >>>>
> >>>I have downloaded this module. I think that we will need a CVS tree.
> >>>Thierry, is it possible to you to have a CVS server on one of your
sites ?
> >>>
> >
> > But first we might need some structure and basics.
> >
> > The original structure seemed to be [sys.src], spread on 100+
directories
> > from [acc] to [vvief].
> >
> > Shall we have a similar structure?
>
>
> I think that we should use the same structure.
>
>
> > As I first thing, I needed include-files.
> > SYS$LIB_C.TLB and SYS$STARLET_C.TLB provide something, and I have
extracted
> > from both.
> > But, only the more general stuff extracted from starlet seems not to
have
> > copyright notices; is it legal to distribute these?
>
>
> I don't know. Maybe the DECUS can answer ?
>
>
> > Lib seems to contain a lot of kernel structures.
> > We must rewrite the stuff in [lib.src] (so far I have got dyndef.h and
> > lnmstrdef.h). It is only the SDLs which are really there, though.
> > When is another matter; shall we have pcbdef.h with struct _pcb ready
before
> > or make it while we change struct task_struct into struct _pcb?
>
>
> I don't have any idea about this file. Does someone have an suggestion ?
>
>
> > And, naming:
> > Should we use the same names for variables, defines, structures and
contents
> > etc, so it will be much easier talking about the same thing, and
developing
> > too? (Like a struct _hm2 with hm2$l_homelbn as the include-file and
Internals
> > book states instead of struct vms_homeblock with hblb in vms_fs.h)
> >
> > CASING:
> > HM2$L_HOMELBN or hm2$l_homelbn?
> > Small letters on structs and contents, and big on defines?
> >
> >
>
>
> When I worked on VAX, we used HM2$L_HOMELBN, but I don't know if it was a
> standard...
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> JKB
>
>
>
>
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